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Monday, January 5, 2009

Cigarette-Smoking Man (Euphorbia tirucalli)


Euphorbia tirucalli was originally supposed to go with the Wizard of Oz series of profiles (I intended it for Scarecrow, which eventually went to Cryptanthus spp.), but as I got further into the research, it seemed less and less appropriate for any of the characters there, and more and more X-Filesy. So it was postponed, and now here we are. (I don't have any plans to do an X-Files series.1)

My plant, October 2007.

To look at it, you wouldn't think this was a plant with a plan. New branches seem to arise from any old spot and head out in any old direction, and this is especially noticeable on smaller, younger plants. The net effect, especially once you factor in the tiny, pointless leaves that appear and disappear on the plant, is of a plant that doesn't know what it's doing, that has no organizational ability at all.2 Older plants have the same tendencies, though on bigger plants (given time, they can get to be 39 feet / 12 meters tall!), the randomness tends to cancel itself out somewhat. Even then, though, they may need occasional pruning back to maintain an attractive shape.

Alas, it's all a trick, a conspiracy if you will. It's actually quite a clever plant, considering. It's good at thinking on its feet, for example: E. tirucalli has been taken from its native South and East Africa and introduced pretty much anywhere in the world that's fairly dry and doesn't freeze, where it has occasionally been so successful that it's made a nuisance of itself. It's also deceptively well-defended. Virtually all Euphorbia species have cactus-like thorns for defense, but E. tirucalli is one of the thornless exceptions. It has instead cranked up the other Euphorbia defense mechanism to eleven, and gone for exceptionally poisonous, nasty sap.

Horror stories about the sap abound on the internet. The sap can cause painful, temporary blindness3 if it gets in eyes (even just rubbing your eyes is dangerous, if sap has dripped on your hands), and some people blister and burn from skin contact too, though usually the skin irritation takes a day or so to show up. Not content just to cause pain and blindness, the plant has long-term ideas as well: it contains phorbol esters, which are not only skin irritants but actually promote cancer development, suppress the immune system, and activate dormant Epstein-Barr virus.4

You see what I mean about there being no rhyme or reason to the branching?

So naturally, because it's unpleasant and dangerous, 1) humans are interested in producing much, much more of it, and 2) it's sold by the deluded or unscrupulous as a "natural cancer cure."

Let's start with the production.

The sap is interesting for a lot of other reasons. Rubber (a very low-quality rubber, but still5) can be made from it. It's also apparently fairly easy to treat the sap to create a gasoline-like substance, which is the main reason we may be seeing it heavily cultivated in the future.6 (Another reason is that it can grow on land which is unsuitable for food crops, and in areas which get little rainfall: it may not be much, but any way to get useless land to produce something useful is progress, kinda.) In favorable conditions, cuttings can grow from 5 cm (2 in) to 50 cm (19.5 in) in a single growing season, it doesn't seem to be affected by any pests, and plants can be cut down to the ground and will still easily regrow, meaning that replanting wouldn't have to be done often. The obvious disadvantages: the raw sap is sticky, so it seems like it would be difficult to process (but then, I guess they process pine trees just fine, don't they?), and the raw sap is dangerous, which means that worker safety might be a bit of a hurdle, especially when you consider that these are mostly going to be grown in hot climates, where it's not especially safe to cover someone with a hazmat suit for protection.

The plant is used "medicinally" around the world too, to "cure" cancer, warts, asthma, cough, earache, assorted kinds of pain, rheumatism, to cauterize wounds, colic, leprosy, paralysis, bone fractures, impotence, thorn extraction, and finally one use that I personally shudder to even contemplate -- hemorrhoids. (Even longer list here.) I also found one account of a person who says his nearsightedness was slightly improved after contact with E. tirucalli sap, though please don't try this yourself. (Or, if you do, don't credit or blame me for whatever happens: I want nothing whatsoever to do with your experiment.)

Now then.

For a long time, the incidence of two particular rare cancers in Africa has been a puzzle: Burkitt's lymphoma is a malignant non-Hodgkins lymphoma, and nasopharyngeal carcinoma is a cancer of the, um, the nasopharynx, which is, in layman's terms, sort of where the pathway down to the throat meets the pathway forward to the nose, above and behind the soft palate. It's a weird little spot, but it can get cancer.7 Both of these also seem to be related to Epstein-Barr infection, and although cases can be found anywhere, there do seem to be more cases of these cancers in parts of East Asia (which is thought to be related to diet8) and Africa. The African version is more likely to strike children, is found more often at low altitudes, and is also incredibly gross (pics at Wikipedia, but remember, I warned you).

The thinking at the moment seems to be that malarial infection (which primarily occurs at low altitudes, because malaria requires mosquitoes, mosquitoes die below 32ºF / 0ºC, and high altitudes in Africa experience freezes), Epstein-Barr virus (which pretty much everybody on the planet is infected with), and possibly -- possibly -- exposure to natural carcinogens like the sap of E. tirucalli, which grows all over the place and is probably something kids (and everyone else) would be exposed to pretty routinely,9 combine to produce these otherwise unusual cancers in the particular populations that have all three factors. This is just a guess for the moment, but it does have the advantage of appearing to match up to the facts at hand.

So there is actually some reason to think that E. tirucalli might be useful for cancer treatment (and there are studies to that effect already: this one showed that E. tirucalli increased survival for mice with a particular kind of cancer, for example) but more definite reason to think that it would cause cancer, and the two things are connected.10

So don't touch or ingest the sap on purpose, is all I'm saying.11 You won't get cancer from it (unless you also have EBV and malaria -- and if you had malaria, you'd probably know), but don't touch it on purpose anyway.

I enjoy this picture.

Having said all that, Euphorbia tirucalli is a popular plant, indoors and outdoors, because it's so ridiculously easy to care for, and the above shouldn't deter you from keeping one if you want one.

Don't look at me like that. I'm serious. It shouldn't.

Exactly how dangerous is the plant, under normal conditions, indoors? Well. This is a matter of some debate, but: the plant by itself, just sitting there photosynthesizing, is not dangerous to you. In fact, nothing short of deliberate application of the sap to a mucous membrane or becoming a Euphorbia tirucalli farmer is likely to matter.12 Driving a couple miles to the grocery store is probably the bigger risk. Also, now that you know that the sap can be problematic, you can take the appropriate steps to protect yourself from it when you're doing stuff to the plant, so it's less dangerous to you now than it was before you knew this. So let's don't lose our heads here.

My own plant, December 2008.

I ran into a number of sites making comments on how easily the plant will bleed sap if damaged or brushed up against or whatever, but it's been my experience that you can handle them fairly roughly without them necessarily bleeding. I'm not sure if this means they bleed all the time and I just don't notice, or if other people think of "brushing up against" something as a much rougher event than I do. Whatever. It's not like they're going to start throwing sap around the living room if a stiff breeze comes through the window or something. Plants will bleed if cut, or if stems are bent at sharp angles, and that's about it.

When you are intending to break the skin of the plant, like for pruning or whatever, you will want to take reasonable precautions. Minimally, I'd say this means goggles; more ideally you want goggles, long-sleeve shirt, long pants, and closed-toe shoes. Although full body suits are occasionally recommended, I think that's got to be overreacting: the sap does wash off, after all. If you're planning on making a day (or career) out of it, or if you already know from previous experience that you react strongly to the sap, well then yes, full skin covering would be warranted. For just trimming back a branch on a single plant at home, though: c'mon. You're at home: you can wash your hands or take a shower if you have to, especially if this is something you only do once or twice a year. Personally, I've only ever cut my plant back twice, and in both cases it was to get cuttings to send someone; I don't make a habit of cutting it back because I'd really rather it grew big anyway. I find that it's sufficient, for small numbers of cuttings, to cut with the blade coming toward me, and keep a paper towel between me and the stem: that way, if the sap does squirt out, it will mostly go away from me, and if it should squirt toward me anyway, I have the paper towel there to catch it.13

Okay, Mr. S., I'm convinced, I'll get one, but could you tell me how to grow them already?

LIGHT: These are full-sun plants, though my plant has had to live with much less light than that before (for longish periods, actually) and has survived it. In fact, now that I think about it, I don't think my plant got actual sunlight until I'd already had it for like five years. It got kinda etiolated,14 but it still grew (albeit slowly), and lived, and it forgave me immediately when I got better light for it.

WATERING: Like most Euphorbias, E. tirucalli will rot if it's too wet for too long of a period. The best plan is to wait for the soil to get very close to completely dry between waterings. That said, E. tirucalli handles more water than that reasonably well, and it's fairly difficult to kill an established, healthy plant in good soil by over- or underwatering. They're also fairly good about letting you know when you're overwatering: they'll try to get your attention by dropping a couple branches. A good, lean potting mix with a lot of bark, gravel, and sand, without a lot of peat moss, will go a long way toward keeping your plant healthy.

TEMPERATURE: Plants should not be exposed to temperatures below freezing. Although some sites say that you can go colder than that, there are an awful lot of people out there who claim to have lost plants in cold spells that weren't that long or that cold. Still a pretty broad range, compared to a lot of houseplants.

HUMIDITY: Utterly irrelevant.

PESTS: I've never seen any on my own plant or on any of the plants at work. I frankly can't imagine any bug wanting to drink corrosive carcinogenic sap, either. That said, it's always a good idea to watch for scale and mealybugs, even if you don't expect to find any, because they do sometimes go after other Euphorbia spp. Sometimes dried sap on the stems will look like mealybugs for a second: if it flakes off easily when poked lightly with a fingernail, it's just sap.

GROOMING: Very minor: it's actually kind of a neat freak, as plants go. Plants that are too wet will lose individual branches, but these are easy to pull off or pick up, and it doesn't happen often. The tiny leaves also fall off occasionally, though I'm not sure that happens for any particular reason.

The tiny, pointless leaves.

FEEDING: Feeding is more or less the usual: half the package-recommended strength, with every watering, should work fine. If your plant is not receiving much sun (because it's winter, or because you have it in a small or obstructed window), you may as well cut back on the feeding too: feeding without providing enough light will only lead to a lot of weak, spindly growth that you'll want to cut off later anyway.

PROPAGATION: From cuttings. Let cuttings dry in air for a few days or weeks and then plant them in a fast-draining potting mix. I've also gotten cuttings to root in plain sand, though I don't recommend it. Rooting is a fairly slow process no matter what you do, but again, more heat and light will speed things along as fast as they can be sped. See also desert-tropicals.com on the subject.

There is one cultivar I'm aware of, called 'Firesticks' or 'Sticks on Fire:' it has the same form as the species, but stems will turn yellow, orange, or red depending on the amount of sun they receive. It's really quite pretty as an outdoor plant; a good photo of 'Sticks on Fire' can be found here. When I've looked at it close-up, indoors, it hasn't really impressed me (it looks like a regular plant that's starting to yellow and die from the top), and I wonder about whether or not it's easy to maintain the color indoors. All the same, I haven't seen any for sale in a long time, and kind of regret not buying one when I had the opportunity.

As with the "person" I've selected to go with it, there's a little ambiguity about whether E. tirucalli is being malevolent15 or just extremely defensive. I gave up watching "X-Files" before the show ended (I quit somewhere in season seven, I think, and that was a season or two too many), so I don't know what Chris Carter ever decided about the cigarette-smoking man's character in the show, whether he was a good guy, bad guy, both, or neither. Wikipedia makes it sound like he was a bad guy. It kinda doesn't matter, since Carter was clearly making it up as he went along and had no intention of wrapping it all up anyway. But I digress. The plant looks like an alien, has mysterious connections to cancer, and talks a lot about energy independence without ever actually producing a single barrel of crude oil: there's something a little unsettling here.

I've been sort of frustrated while trying to write this post, because there are so many conflicting pieces of information out there: for every couple warnings not to touch the sap, there's somebody claiming miraculous healing powers and saying it's totally harmless. With so many different accounts, and no way to know which ones are just copying from one another, who's making stuff up, who has something to gain by making people either more or less afraid of the plant, and who has actual firsthand experience, I have had to try to use my best judgment about how scared I want to make you with this profile.

I enjoy my own personal plant, and aside from it getting a little top-heavy sometimes, I've never had any trouble growing it, have never been hurt by it, never had any pests on it, and I've had it since 2001 (the only plants I've had longer are the gray-variegated Yucca guatemalensis). So it's been a long-term, productive member of the family for a long time, and I'm not going to be eating the stems in my salads, using the sap as shaving cream, or pruning hundreds of them on a daily basis, so I don't lose sleep over having it in the house.

Even so:

I think there's good reason to use some basic protection when working with this plant. I'm not talking space suits, but goggles, certainly. And it's an especially good idea to remember to wash your hands carefully and thoroughly after working with the plant, lest you absentmindedly touch your eyes or mouth.
I don't think you need to get rid of this plant if you already have it, even if you have small children or pets: I didn't see a lot of evidence that it was very directly poisonous if eaten (unlike, for example, Adenium obesum or Dieffenbachia spp.: for those, I would suggest that people should keep them away from kids and pets, and if that means giving yours away, well, so be it). Sap in the eyes seems to be more serious, though not everybody who's experienced that has necessarily had a bad time.
I do think you should reconsider buying a first one if you have kids or pets in your home. Not because it's that dangerous -- in fact, I won't think badly of you if you go ahead and get one anyway -- but because there are plants with similar looks that pose much less danger, and why take unnecessary chances? Hatiora salicornioides and some Rhipsalis species are less dangerous plants with similar looks. (Indeed, it's possible that the people who report having no problems with E. tirucalli have misidentified the plant: I've seen some very similar-looking Rhipsalis before.)
Use common sense when deciding where to put it. Don't leave it in a place where it can be knocked over easily, or where branches are going to be temptingly low.

If any readers have had run-ins with Euphorbia tirucalli sap, and want to weigh in on the terribleness levels they personally experienced, they are heartily encouraged to do so in the comments.

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Fun things to read if you're not already sick of reading about the plant (and don't forget the links from the text above):

http://www.paghat.com/firesticks.html
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/Euphoti.htm
http://www.plantzafrica.com/plantefg/euphorbtirucal.htm
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/euphorbia_tirucalli.html
http://www.actahort.org/books/501/501_46.htm

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Photo credits: Cigarette-smoking man (William B. Davis) was from Wikipedia, though Wikipedia has a different photo up now. Euphorbia tirucalli pictures are my own.

1 Though I could probably be persuaded, for the right amount of cash. Submit bribe proposals by email; you should receive a response within a few days if you edited the address correctly.
2 As opposed to the similar-looking plant drunkard's dream, Hatiora salicornioides, which looks disorganized too but actually has a very regular growth habit: stem sections grow to a more or less standard length, then branch into two or three more stems at the very tip, each of which which then divides into two or three more stems of its own, and so forth. With E. tirucalli, stems can get longer, can terminate in multiple branches, or can send off a variable number of branches from the side as they grow. If there's an underlying system to the growth habit, I can't see it personally.
3 And there are the occasional unverified tales of permanent blindness, too.
4 It's more complex than this, but: Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) is the virus responsible for mononucleosis. It's incredibly widespread: by the time the average U.S. resident hits the age of 40, there's a 95% chance s/he carries EBV, whether or not s/he has ever had mono. Usually, EBV infection occurs in childhood and looks more or less like any other childhood illness: mononucleosis only appears in cases where one has somehow managed to avoid exposure until adolescence. Once the infection has run its course, the virus subsequently goes more or less dormant in one's immune system, and usually that's the last time you're aware of it, though it will re-activate (without any symptoms of illness) from time to time and produce new viruses, which are mostly shed in saliva. The sap from E. tirucalli, specifically the phorbol esters in it, can cause this reactivation to occur, and is also thought to play a role in causing a couple very rare kinds of cancer. Keep reading.
5 As with the famed dog that could walk on its hind legs, the important part is not that it does it badly, but that it's able to do it at all.
6 Though I should note that the same idea of growable gasoline comes up with a lot of other plants in the Euphorbiaceae (as for example Pedilanthus tithymaloides), and yet here we are, still burning oil. The basic idea sounds good, but there are clearly obstacles to its execution somewhere.
7 I wasn't able to confirm that they ever called it this officially and on-camera, but in "X-Files," Scully had a tumor on her nasal cavity's wall, near the brain, which could easily have been nasopharyngeal carcinoma.
8 The going theory is that the carcinogenic agent in the East Asian cases is cured fish and meat, which contain large amounts of nitrites and nitrosamines. It's not really worth getting into what nitrosamines are - we're already on quite a tangent here with the cancer - but you can read the Wikipedia article about them here.
9 As well as a lot of other Euphorbia species, some of which are even nastier than tirucalli, if you can believe it. Go looking for stories about E. cooperi sometime.
10 (A lot of the compounds used in chemotherapy are themselves capable of causing cancer, actually. They're therapeutically useful anyway, because they damage fast-growing, fast-dividing cancerous cells more than they damage healthy cells.)
11 I'm hearing several readers now say, Holy shit, Mr. S: you had me at painful, temporary blindness.
12 It is possible to have a life-threatening allergic reaction (anaphylaxis) to E. tirucalli. An account of anaphylactic shock resulting from Euphorbia tirucalli contact can be found here, and it does indeed sound very unpleasant, but this isn't much of an argument against buying a pencil cactus, since any plant species is theoretically capable of triggering anaphylaxis in somebody.
13 I should note for the record that I have never seen the sap squirt in any direction, personally. But people say it can, and I believe them, so there you go.
14 Etiolation: weak, pale, elongated growth caused by inadequate light. Most often seen on cactus, but it can happen to any kind of plant.
15 It doesn't help me make the case that the plant's not actually evil when floridata.com orders their plant profiles in such a way as to make E. tirucalli plant #666.

17 comments:

  1. Hi Mister Sub, happy new year to you and yours. I had to read this being a die hard fan, watched until the bitter end, despite the fleeing of you know who from the show and have seen every episode many times, yes there are several faves. I won't spoil the final way that the Cigarette smoking man was treated, if I can even remember, for I am over the demise of the show completely and have switched loyalties and love to the sadistic 24. As for the plant, I think we grew it outside in our southern CA garden. But really, you have painted such a scary picture I don't know why anyone would keep it or buy it! I certainly would not. Interesting take on Scully's cancer too, but it was really just to cover her real life pregnancy, but you knew that. :-)
    Frances

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  2. But really, you have painted such a scary picture I don't know why anyone would keep it or buy it! I certainly would not.

    Seriously? 'Cause if so, then I did it wrong. I could see not wanting to plant one outside (some of the stuff that didn't survive into the final draft involved what happens if you plant it outside: basically it grows into a monster and starts knocking your basement walls in, at which point you find out that almost nobody is willing to come and remove it for you), but they're perfectly nice houseplants or container plants. They're just, you know, houseplants you have to treat with a certain amount of respect and common sense (like cactus, Dieffenbachia, Pachypodium, Adenium, Nerium, etc.).

    And I actually didn't know that Scully's cancer was about a real-life pregnancy.

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  3. I hope you were careful with those close-up shots. You have heard what the sap does to cameras, right?

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  4. I have one of these plants that was given to me as a cutting by a friend. She just called it a pencil plant and said I couldn't kill it. I think I bet her I could. Well, it's been a year and all it's done is grow, despite my efforts otherwise. I had no idea it can kill AND cure cancer at the same time. I like it even more now. It does live indoors, but I take it outside and put it in my daughter's Harry potter garden for the summer. It fits right in, being odd-looking and deadly. Thanks for such an informative, lengthy, thoroughly researched and well-rounded post.

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  5. Mr_Subjunctive,

    I agree with you that this plant is well worth growing, and I think your lengthy discussion about its toxicity is valuable. I think your portrait gives such a negative impression of the plant because it places such little emphasis on its virtues and so much on its toxicity.

    It isn't just weird-looking. It can be a very handsome. The texture offers a distinct contrast with most other houseplants. With the "Firesticks" cultivar, the peach-to-red color that can develop in good light is very attractive, and I wonder just how hard it is to obtain if you can summer the plant outdoors. (I haven't had mine long enough to do the experiment.)

    It's very low-maintenance, and its ability to shrug off neglect is a major advantage for the average houseplant owner.

    I've seen larger specimens (and lots of plants in photos on the net) that look more conventionally organized, with a regular trunk and branches, and twigs emerging in pseudo-whorls. I wonder whether the disorganized appearance of many houseplant specimens isn't either a juvenile trait or a response to low light levels (or both).

    And, as a practical matter, I suggest that anyone likely to come into contact with the latex ought to use latex or vinyl gloves as a first line of defense.

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  6. Hi, I just read your comments about Euphorbia tirucalli. I alternately long for one and fear to have it. If you check out www.euphorbia.de, which has a section about the toxicicity of the sap, it is clear the sap should be handled with care.
    Last spring, I had the opportunity to get a 4 foot plant for free, but let my concerns about the sap outweigh my decision. Now I am kicking myself!

    Elsie

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  7. hello mr. sub, i wish you very happy new year from India.i love this plant. in India we tie it in home in certain season to keep away small flies. I am doing an experimental research to use the plant sap topically on scalp of male pattern of baldness person to grow new hair, improve scalp health in general.the primary research is very promising.i am posting report every 3 days on youtube in the form of actual video.within6 days i could grow new hair on the bald spot. kindly see my videos
    1. MTB BALDNESS TREATMENT WITH INDIAN PLANT PART 1
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sESIOctllik
    2.HAIR REGROWTH ON BALD IN 6 DAYS IN INDIA WITH INDIAN PLANT PART 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ3wd0pBCx0
    3. . baldness treatment with indian plant part 3. definite cure for male pattern of baldness?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUl4hY_2x14

    i thank you for extensive informaton you have provided for this useful plant.
    -dr. prakash verekar

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  8. Nicely written, I love your writing style. I will continue reading. I actually discovered the sap of E. T. (Euphorbia Tirucalli) and thought it would make a good glue or wrinkle sap, and put it all over!!! The paper came unglued but I did not. I am still alive and my E.T. is getting huge here in So. CA.

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  9. hi mister sub, happy new year, I have one of those tree in my yard. my neighbor keep on cutting on is side, now it is on lay on my side, on the top of my roof, wanted to find out how to kill the tree?thank you. chris.

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  10. Anonymous January 2, 2011 12:43 PM:

    I'm really more about the keeping them alive indoors than the killing them outdoors, so I don't know what to tell you. I'd suggest asking a few tree removal services or garden centers in your area about that.

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  11. I randomly found the Fire sticks variety at Lowes a few years ago. It started to die a week or so after purchase and I found it had no roots. It was just cuttings stuck in soil. The cuttings rooted very successfully in a propagation chamber.

    I had it in a huge unobstructed south window (among many other plants). Over time, it turned from the red-orange-green to a yellow-green color. I read online that it changes color from colder temperatures and not high light. Supposedly, it needs some 50F nights to get the colorful fire look.

    I have had both varieties and they are equal in ease of growth, but the Fire Sticks just has the cold weather requirements for the color change.

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  12. I was born in Iowa but have been transplanted in South Texas. My fire stick is doing fine but no fire. Can all of this species turn red when cold. It did have the opportunity the last couple of years or could it be it needs more sun. Sun is brutal here. 100's very often so I have it outside in morning sun

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  13. Gillette:

    It was red/yellow when you bought it? Only the cultivar ('Sticks on Fire,' 'Firesticks,' etc.) will turn red; the species remains green in all circumstances.

    I don't think cold is necessary for the color change, despite what Anonymous said: I think it's a matter of light intensity, and I don't think you should be having trouble with getting enough sun to produce the color in South Texas, since my own 'Firesticks' is substantially yellow and it's only getting direct sun indoors for a couple hours a day. My guess is that you have the species, which stays green, and not the cultivar, which turns yellow and red, but if you're positive you have the cultivar, then yes, moving the plant somewhere where it can get more sun might help.

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  14. I have several of these interesting and hardy plants in my garden, here in Durban, South Africa, where they grow with great ease and speed. I was aware of their poisonous white latex, however, today I carelessly and foolishly pruned several, and after washing my hands with soap, preceded to remove my contact lenses from my eyes. I experienced severe burning and excrutiating pain, the kind I can hardly describe. Evidently some sap had hardened on my fingertips or beneath a finger nail. I had to be rushed to the local hospital where my eyes were flushed for half and hour and I received numbing solutions for the intense pain. I also experienced unusual light sensitivity. This experience lasted for about 9 hours. Tonight the surrounds to my eyes are bruised and I have had stabs of pain in my temples and forehead.I shudder to think of the effect if one had the sap splash directly into one's eyes. The doctor told me that this is a common happening here in South Africa, with other Euphorbias like the Candelabra Tree, causing similar effects. I will not be removing these most remarkable of plants from my garden, but I will be treating them with much greater respect. Gardener beware! G McCallum

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  15. I found a source for the 'fireswticks' variety of this, Logee's Greenhouses. Here is the URL for it.

    http://www.logees.com/Pencil-Cactus-Firesticks-Euphorbia-tirucalli/productinfo/S7697-4/

    cho5420334@aol.com

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  16. Is there any edible uses of the SAP ?

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  17. Anonymous:

    The answer sort of depends on what question you're really asking.

    Do people ever ingest the sap on purpose? Oh, probably. People have, on occasion, consumed all kinds of horrible things on purpose, with the intention of making themselves stronger or healthier or whatever: radium, lead, arsenic, strychnine, ground up rhinoceros horns, apricot pits, castor oil, etc. People will pretty much eat anything if someone tells them it will make them healthier.
    Does ingesting the sap ever improve health? I'm sure there's someone somewhere who says it does, but I'm not aware of any actual science to support the idea.
    Should I personally ingest E. tirucalli sap? No. What the fuck is wrong with you? Did you not read the post?
    Could the sap, or some compound extracted from it, be used medicinally? Sure. Maybe. All kinds of dangerous shit is useful medically, at the right doses and in the right situations.

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