Monday, February 2, 2009

Fluoride: What it is, and how it's spelled

I was inspired to write this post because of a recent Garden Web thread. It was one of those deals where I started writing a response about one specific thing, and kept adding in other stuff, and the response got longer and longer and longer until it reached the point where I thought I'd be kind of being a jackass if I posted it. Which is one way that having a blog is nice.

So here we go.

Fluorine is a chemical element. It's a greenish, very toxic and reactive gas, composed of diatomic (= two atoms) molecules, F2.

Model of a diatomic fluorine molecule. Not terribly informative, I know: I looked for pictures of the actual gas but all such pictures I found were copyrighted. This image is by benjah-bmm27 and was taken from Wikimedia.

When a molecule of fluorine picks up a couple extra electrons from somewhere, you get two fluoride ions. Fluoride is toxic to humans in large amounts, but in small amounts added to drinking water, it can strengthen teeth. More on that later. Because fluoride is negatively charged (due to the extra electron it's carrying), it can't just float around without something positively charged to balance it, e.g. sodium fluoride or calcium fluoride. More about calcium fluoride later, too.

Most plants aren't particularly touchy about fluoride levels in water, but there are a few that are, including some of the more popular ones:

  • Cordyline fruticosa is sort of famous for developing burnt tips and margins from fluoride; this, combined with its susceptibility to spider mites, probably accounts for why it's not a more commonly grown indoor plant.
  • Chlorophytum comosum will get tip burn from fluoride, sodium, or boron.
  • The entire Dracaena clan, except possibly for D. surculosa, gets terrible tip burn when fluoride levels are high; this is a difficult problem to deal with, as Dracaenas are often sold as large, floor-sized specimens which are hard to drag to a water source to flush out.
  • Calathea and Maranta spp. (e.g. Calathea ornata, Maranta leuconeura erythroneura) also develop tip and margin burn, especially on the oldest leaves, often with a yellowish halo at the edge of the burn.
  • Asparagus spp. don't seem to be that picky about fluoride in water, but fluoride in the air (which sometimes happens following volcanic eruptions, or near incinerators) can cause sudden, massive leaf drop.
  • The kentia palm, Howea forsterana, is also sensitive to atmospheric fluoride, and is slightly sensitive to fluoride in the soil.
  • Chamaedorea species (elegans, metallica, seifrizii, etc.) get tip burn, as will many other palms (Chrysalidocarpus lutescens, Rhapis excelsa).
  • Yucca guatemalensis can experience fluoride toxicity, but it tends to be slow in developing and fairly easy to fix with a soil flush.
  • Aspidistra spp. (elatior, lurida) and Tradescantia spp. (zebrina, pallida) are also somewhat, though not extremely, touchy about fluoride.

Probable fluoride burn on a Cordyline fruticosa at work. Or if it's not fluoride, it at least looks like fluoride damage would look. My own photo.

If your water supply contains a lot of fluoride, or if flushing your plants with large amounts of water is impractical for some reason, you should either steer clear of the above-listed plants or invest in a water purifier of some kind: reverse-osmosis filtration is popular, if expensive. Distilled water may also be an option. One can also just avoid the plants on the above list and grow plants which are less susceptible. (Most of the sensitive commonly grown species are in a pretty small number of families: avoid the Marantaceae, Arecaceae, Ruscaceae, and Liliaceae, and you should be relatively safe)

Some people also advise letting water sit out overnight before using it, to give the fluoride a chance to evaporate. This isn't quite wrong, but it doesn't work as well as you'd expect. Fluoride in water can escape, particularly in acidic conditions, by finding a stray hydrogen ion and combining to form the gas hydrogen fluoride, which will then drift away with the air. However, as best as I can determine, this happens too slowly to be useful for horticultural purposes. If the air is dry enough, you may find that letting water sit out to remove fluoride actually removes enough water to concentrate the fluoride.1

Changing your water supply may not be enough, depending on what other things you do. Certain fertilizers contain superphosphate, the name for phosphates derived by dissolving phosphate rocks with sulfuric acid.2 This is, you know, fine, except that the resulting superphosphate can have any number of other things in it, depending on what rocks were dissolved, and fluoride is a common impurity. Time-release fertilizers like Osmocote are typically safe; other fertilizers may specifically state that they do or do not contain superphosphate, or will indicate what amount of fluoride ion the product contains, or etc. Read the labels.

Another possible accidental source of fluoride is perlite, a common -- and very useful -- soil additive which keeps potting mix light and well-aerated, enabling soil to dry quickly and getting air to plants' roots. Alas, perlite is also made from rock,3 and so depending on the source, it may or may not contain harmful amounts of fluoride.4 Perlite can still be used for fluoride-sensitive plants if it's rinsed well with water first, though obviously if you're rinsing with fluoridated water then you're not necessarily helping. Also I imagine it feels kind of silly to wash perlite.

Growers add calcium to soil, and raise the soil pH, to keep fluoride levels from affecting plants. Calcium and fluoride form calcium fluoride (CaF2), a relatively insoluble mineral which is named fluorite when found naturally. The fluoride ions are still there, but the calcium prevents them from dissolving in water, so they're not available for the plant's roots to absorb and consequently don't cause problems.

Most people never make a point of flushing their plants' soil out, so minerals of all kinds accumulate, fluoride among them. For this reason, even if you're using fluoridated tap water, rinsing the soil heavily with water can reduce fluoride toxicity problems just by bringing the level down to whatever it is in the water. Also, flushing soil out at every watering (which is what I do) can prevent toxicity issues from ever developing in the first place.

Picture of fluorite crystals. Picture by Ryan Salsbury, taken from Wikipedia.

Finally, a note on spelling. I know that this is dickish of me, to rant about spelling, but it bothers me to see this done wrong, so I feel like I have to say something. It's not aimed at anybody in particular, if this reduces the dickishness at all. And as far as it goes, I know uor is a lot less common sequence of letters in English than our; it's easy to make typos, and I do it too. But:

The mineral fluorite (calcium fluoride, CaF2: I told you we'd get back to it eventually) is what started this whole stupid-spelling business. Fluorite glows under ultraviolet light; this action was named fluorescence after the mineral, which led to fluorescent lights and highly-fluorescent chemicals like fluorescein. The element fluorine was prepared from molten fluorite, and consequently was named after it. Then the fluoride ion was named for the element fluorine, as were things like chlorofluorocarbons and water fluoridation (which changes the mineral in tooth enamel from apatite to the stronger fluoroapatite).

Fluorite the mineral was named fluorite via the Latin fluo, meaning "to flow," which referred to its low melting point, and the stupid Latin vowel order has been passed along through all the above links, plus several hundred others.

More fluorite, obviously crystals again instead of molten. Molten fluorite is apparently difficult to come by, or not very photogenic, or something. Picture by photolitherland, taken from Wikipedia.

Flour, by contrast, is the generic word for grain which has been ground into a powder; there's no meaning as far as I know for the words flourescent, flouride, flourite, or flourine.5

(Though I suppose if flour glows when you shine UV light at it, the glow could reasonably be called flourescence. I don't know whether flour glows under UV or not. Probably not. But if it did, that'd be a name for it.)

So, to sum up: 1) some plants don't like fluoride in their water. 2) Those plants should get water without fluoride. 3) Sometimes you can rinse fluoride away or bind it with calcium. 4) The low melting point of calcium fluoride has made us all bad spellers.


1 I think a lot of the confusion here stems from the fact that one can remove chlorine, a very similar element, from chlorinated water by letting it sit out. The trick is that the chlorine in chlorinated water is present as a complex mix of ions and molecules, including chlorine (Cl2), hypochlorous acid (HOCl), hydrogen chloride (HCl), hypochlorite (OCl-), chlorite (ClO2-), chlorate (ClO3-), and perchlorate (ClO4-), with chloride ion (Cl-) forming a very small proportion of the total. Some of these species are more easily evaporated than others.
Fluoridated water, by contrast, contains most of its fluoride as hexafluorosilicate ion (SiF62-) or fluoride ion, depending on the city adding it, and so the chemistry is very different: there are no fluorine analogues for many of the chlorine compounds listed above. Fluoride ion pretty much only leaves under acidic conditions; hexafluorosilicate can decompose in water to form hydrogen fluoride (HF) and silicon tetrafluoride (SiF4), both gases. I couldn't find anything that addressed the question of whether the hexafluorosilicate was stabilized to prevent this from happening, but it seems like something really ought to be, because if it's not going to stay in the water then it's not going to serve any purpose to add it.
Iowa City's drinking water fluoride concentration ranges from 0.8 to 1.5 ppm, according to the 2006 Water Quality Report for the University of Iowa (pdf). I could not determine whether it was added as fluoride ion or as hexafluorosilicate. Chlorine levels (including all forms of chlorine, not just chloride ion) were similar (1.3 ppm) in the most recent report I could find.
2 Yeah, sulfuric acid is pretty badass stuff. For fuck's sakes, be careful with it.
3 Perlite is essentially rock popcorn: pieces of rock, heated very rapidly, without giving the water in the rock time to evaporate. When the water can't take it anymore and evaporates anyway, it breaks and expands the rock as it goes, turning it into glass foam, basically. The bright white color is due to reflection from all the little bubbles so formed (like with the head on a beer, or thick soap suds). Actual popcorn is essentially the same thing: quickly heated water vapor, in a starchy seed, expands all at once and produces a light, fluffy white foam of starch.
4 According to Wikipedia, perlite is usually produced from obsidian, which does not contain enough fluoride to be worth mentioning, but you know how reliable Wikipedia can be. And anyway, even if it's not a lot -- not a lot relative to what? We're talking about parts per million here; it doesn't have to be a lot in order to hurt sensitive plants.
5 Also I believe someone should write a children's book about a young female baker named Flourine. Possibly she could have a partner named Sugarette and a dog named Butter. I'm not sure what the plot of the book would be, but c'mon: I shouldn't have to come up with everything.


Anonymous said...

Hi, your clickable footnotes are going to the web page sign-on today instead of down to the footnote.

Interesting info about fluorides. I knew about Chlorophytum sensitivity, but had not heard of the other plants you mentioned being affected.


mr_subjunctive said...

Thanks for letting me know. The footnotes should work now.

queenofseaford said...

Interesting post. I have a few dracena that fair far better in the summer when they receive rain as their primary water source. Flushing the pots at each watering would be a chore.....but I suppose if I want my plants to thrive....

CherB said...

I think you mean that flourine is a diatomic gas composed of F2, not Cl2

mr_subjunctive said...

Yes. I did. Can you tell this was done in kind of a hurry?

Karen715 said...

A very informative essay, made all the more enjoyable because I'm pretty sure I know which GW post(s) inspired it.

Zach said...

Quoting mr_subjunctive:
Most plants aren't particularly touchy about fluoride levels in water, except EVERY PLANT YOU OWN!

I think I own nearly every plant on your list. :)
Thanks for the informative post.

mr_subjunctive said...


Yeah, I own everything on the list except for the palms. No fluoride problems with any of them, though, knock wood.

Anonymous said...

::applauds vigorously:: Bravo!

Thank you for a well (if hurriedly)written post. I'd always wondered about fluoride.

This does explain why my Maranta never did well for me. It wasn't me, nope, not at all.

We have a Pur water filter; I really should check if it takes out fluoride.


Mark said...

Very informative post. I've got a very healthy Calathea Orbifolia and someone once commented to me that I must have a green thumb because they can be touchy to grow. Now I know the truth - it's my non-fluoridated well water!

Jess said...

How on Earth do you have time to do all these posts? I work at a rather large greenhouse and have no time to think of very interesting posts. I love reading yours, great work.

Ann said...

We have in our staff room, two pot plants, and they always have brown tips. We just thought that we didn't water enough.

I rememebr also when I bringthe janet Craig indoors, the tips get brown when it is very healthy growing outside in the rain in Singapore.

Thanks for the post.

CherB said...

It is a very good article and did explain that even though I pamptered my Maranta kerchoveana, it produced lovely strong growth, but it would always get these brown tips. This happened to all my plants, I think. I don't know if our water is fluoridated here, but I've almost entirely given up on houseplants now. :( I just don't seem to be able to care for them properly. Anyways, very neat post!

KBDC said...

Thank you for this article. we have a Dracaena in our office which I am responsible for and it looks terrible with the brown edges. Now I know what it is from. Is it o.k. to trim the leaves of their brown areas? Will this eventually clear up if I let the plant dry out between waterings? I was told to water it every week-but now see that is too much. It also sits in the water too which I know is not good.

mr_subjunctive said...


Yes, it's okay to trim off the dead areas.

It won't clear up on its own if you let the plant dry out more between waterings; right now there is a sizeable amount of fluoride (and other dissolved minerals) in the soil, which will continue to injure the plant if it is not removed. The way to do this is to flush the soil out with a large quantity of water, which you can do by placing the plant in a sink or bathtub (or even parking lot, if the temperature is above 60F/16C) and then filling up the pot with water and letting it drain out into the sink/tub/parking lot repeatedly. You may have to do this a lot (maybe 10-12 times?) on this first day.

Thereafter, you need to either water the plant with water that doesn't contain fluoride (distilled, reverse-osmosis, or rain water), or use tap water but flush the soil heavily at every watering.

*Don't flush the soil until the plant needs water again.
*Don't make the plant stand in its drainage water in the future. (won't necessarily help with this particular problem, but it's a very bad idea for Dracaenas to be too wet for very long, and if it's sitting in water then it will be too wet)

prieth said...

What about fruits and vegetables? Can fluoride accummulate in the "meat" of them using tap water?

mr_subjunctive said...


Probably, but it would vary from plant to plant. Different plants have different capacities for concentrating specific minerals. Like, Brazil nuts concentrate barium, and Chinese brake ferns concentrate arsenic. So I wouldn't be surprised if it were possible, though I have no specific information on which plants might concentrate fluoride specifically, or to what extent. Some anti-fluoridation sites claim that tea (Camellia something) is a strong bioaccumulator of fluoride, though anti-fluoridation sites should probably be viewed with some skepticism.

Being a fairly widespread mineral in the environment, due to the weathering of fluoride-containing rocks and so forth, all plants are likely to contain some fluoride, regardless of what they were watered with. This would probably be higher in areas with high natural concentrations (West Texas, for example, has high levels of fluoride in the groundwater) or in the soil near active volcanoes, which may sometimes spew large amounts of fluoride-containing rock when erupting. (One such eruption in Iceland killed a lot of plants and livestock, according to a story I dimly recall and don't have time to look up.)

So the answer to your question is, technically, yes, but watering with non-fluoridated water isn't going to help, if you're growing plants in the ground outdoors. Indoors, yes, you probably do have enough control over the environment of the plant that you could grow very, very low-fluoride carrots, or whatever, if that were a goal.

LauraMQ said...

Thanks Mr. Subjunctive for your post. I really enjoyed reading it!
I am doing some research on fluoride damaging effects on plants, for a vegetated erosion control work to be done on a fluoride mine. Fortunately, I didn't intend to use nor Dracaena not any Lillium!

Anonymous said...


mommy 115 said...

Right about now I sure wish I had a fluorescent light so I could check to see if my flour fluoresces!

Anonymous said...

This is great, so informative. I wish I could find posts like this for all my weird plant problems.

NancyC said...

Thanks for the more informative explanation about fluoride and plants. Your explanation came up while doing research for my 9 year old grandson who wants to grow a cordyline fruticosa. After purchasing a ti log and searching for information for him about growing a ti plant, I decided to search further about fluoride. I'm glad I did because I would have told him to let his water sit 24 hours. Of course, I will have to black out the "d" and "f" words, as they aren't appropriate for a child, although it is understandable that they truly express your feelings. Spelling is also very important and a good thing for him to learn. The child's book is a great idea and it would be wonderful to see more children's books about plants as the strangest people.

Unknown said...

Omgsh, smart and a smartass. I love that combo. Thanks!